LAVALLOIS Nash
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Posted - 2014.11.27 17:48:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:While I'm not so sure the proposed bandwidth idea is good (as I haven't actually read about it in detail) I know for sure that being able to play more than one role at the same time, in this case Logi + another, is an incredible stupid mechanic that absolutely needs fixing.
Without knowing the details on the bandwidth idea, I would probably like the idea of deployed equipment selfdestructing if the owner spawns in a suit without that specific item equipped more.
As for solo play being rather stupid, I still, as I always have, blame the rather terrible gamemodes and the pretty much non-existant squad/command structure.
What you dont understand though, is that its just the logi role that is targeted here. What about slayers who switch fits to have a different weapon/armor setup? What about people that switch to AV to deal with a tank and then switch back? Forge gunners? HMGers? Snipers?
Why is it ok for a dedicated slayer whos obsessed with "FPS" to be able to switch to a double swarm commando to shoot down an ADS, and then put his GK.0 scout fit on after? its that not role switching as well?
When someone shows up at a supply depot and drops 50 nanohives, thats spam. What the vast majority of logis do is not spam. its our job to deploy equipment strategically. its our role.
if you want to play just FPS style, there are hundreds of FPS games out there that contain about as much depth as a bottle cap. Youll be able to line up the center of your screen on a target and press a button for many hours. Here though, its all the roles around that give this game character. COD is just strait up point and click. Dust, is supposed to be the sum of its parts. Dont ruin the game just because you dont want to put up 50$ to buy the latest run and gun title.
Anyway, i made a detailed post awhile ago in the thread in question. I got a like from CCP, so atleast it goes to show that they are listening to all sides of it and will carefully weight their decision.
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LAVALLOIS Nash
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True Adamance wrote:
I don't believe that I should have my cake and eat it too.
I see no reason that I should be able to reap the benefits of multiple classes at the same time.
If I want people spawns Vehicle wise should I not equip a MCRU? Is that not the MCRU's function?
But back to the point have yet to hear an argument that logically convinces me that you should be able to use a logistics suit to lay down X number of equipment items and then switch out to another suit and spend the rest of the battle in that role.
Honestly I have little experience with Logistics roles beyond the Rep, Rez, Resupply archetype, but if I hear a well reasoned argument I am willing to revise my opinion.
@True Adamance:
The proposed solution is more of a punishment than a fix. It caters to the PC obsessed CPM members who want to curtail every roles but assaulting.
if you tell me that I have to stay in logi suits the whole match or my equipment vanishes, i would accept that. That means i cant forgegun, I cant HMG, no assaults, scouts, or commandos. Only my weak logi suits. I would be ok with that. This is not what is being proposed.
its my job to deploy equipment. Not spam, deploy. Look....i start the match, off the bat I got to get my dropship and get my uplinks out there. Since I always play solo, I use guerrilla tactics. i always place a remote mine on the uplink. And my uplinks are placed in solid, hard to reach, strategic places. So just in the opening minutes of the game Ive already deployed 7 pieces of equipment. (4 uplinks, 3 mines), all from 1 suit.
Then what? Mines. Proxy mines. i switch to a proxy mine suit and now I lay out anti vehicle traps to create interdiction zones. If I have time, I create anti personnel traps too. Providing that goes well and i dont get killed or bogged down in the process, its back to vehicle time to deliver supplies to people who have spawned in my earlier uplinks. Once they are resupplied and im calling back my vehicle, the match is half done.
Why am i the one being punished? i have Amarr logi Lv5, uplinks Lv5, Remotes Lv5, Nanohives Lv4. Thats a big SP investment. Everyone else with a dep SP investment can continue to use their investment the whole game. Scouts can use their cloak all match. They can switch to a crazy AV fit wtih no "bandwith" things. Its my SP that becomes useless, cause I am then forced into a more frontline role. Im a solo player. Why would i go around repping squads and reviving them? These people kill me all day long. My job and my pay is to provide a supply line to the front line.
Do I switch fits to slay? Only when there are so many people putting equipment that my job is useless. If they want to restrict certain deployables to the logi suits, and make it so that if you deploy you have to stay a logi, im ok with that. But the proposed changes hurt me, a dedicated logi, and does nothing to stop someone who is not a logi from deploying hives and uplinks. 6 non logis and their 1 uplink each is more harmful than me and my 4 well placed ones.
P.S. Dont use the fact that im Gallente against me.
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